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【心得】強化與進化的心得(以李儒UR為例) (增加4, 6, 8大進說明)

樓主 小莫 gmsht
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一直以來自己一直對於強化多少再進化,或是要用4張,6張,8張來進化困惱著。
剛好狂飛雪大大po了他李儒的成長過程,有了各階段的數值,所以便開始計算各種組合。
分享給大家,如果有錯誤請幫忙指出,謝謝!!

另外我不知道李儒的MAX攻防是多少,不知道會不會有爆掉的數值,如果有大大知道的可以提供一下。

分為下面14種進化case計算:(滿級進化可以繼承卡點數10%,未滿級進化只繼承5%點數)

1.4隻都升到滿級才進化(4全滿)
2.4隻都不升級直接進化(4不升)
3.4隻都升一半等級35級才進化(4升一半)
4.4隻前兩次進化不升,最後一次升滿進化(4前不升後1滿)
5.4隻前兩次進化升一半,最後一次升滿進化(4前半後1滿)
6.4隻前一次進化升一半,後兩次升滿進化(4前半後2滿)

7.6隻都不升級直接進化(6不升)
8.6隻前兩次不升級進化,最後一次升滿進化(6前不升後1滿)
9.6隻前兩次升一半進化,最後一次升滿進化(6前半後1滿)
10.6隻都升到滿級才進化(6全滿)

11.8隻都不升級直接進化(8不升)
12.8隻前兩次不升級進化,最後一次升滿進化(8前不升後1滿)
13.8隻前兩次升一半進化,最後一次升滿進化(8前半後1滿)
14.8隻都升到滿級才進化(8全滿)

先說一下什麼是4張進化,6張進化,8張進化
               4張進化
                 X(進)
              |           |
           UR++      |
        |           |      |       
      UR+      |      |
     |       |      |      |
   UR  UR  UR  UR

                  6張進化
           
                     X(進)
                  |             |
           UR++          UR++
          |         |           |        |  
      UR+      |       UR+      |
     |       |      |      |       |      |
   UR  UR  UR  UR  UR  UR

                        8張進化
                          X(進)
                   |                     |
            UR++                  UR++
          |            |              |            |  
      UR+       UR+       UR+      UR+
     |      |       |       |      |       |      |      |
   UR  UR  UR  UR  UR  UR  UR  UR

李儒UR資本點數,假設升35級增加點數為70級的一半,UR初始值6450:5950不太確定,不過影響不大
UR: 6450: 5950,升70級增加6350:6450,升35級增加3175:3225
UR+: 7500: 7300,升70級增加6800:6500,升35級增加3400:3250
UR++: 8800: 8500,升70級增加7200:6800,升35級增加3600:3400
X進:11850:10300,升80級增加6550:5900。

不想看那麼多內文的,可以直接跳到後面看最後結果就可以了 :)
1.(4全滿),這是狂飛雪示範的方法
                 基礎值  UR70級   10%  2隻
UR+  攻 = 7500+(6450+6350)*0.1*2 = 10060
         防 = 7300+(5950+6450)*0.1*2 =  9780

                 基礎值   UR+70級       UR70級
UR++攻 = 8800+(10060+6800)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 11766
          防 = 8500+( 9780+6500)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 11368

                      基礎值   UR++70級       UR70級
X進    攻 = 11850+(11766+7200)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 15026
          防 = 10300+(11368+6800)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 13356

X進80級      攻 = 15026 + 6550 = 21576
                    防 = 13356 + 5900 = 19256

2.(4不升)
                  基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+  攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
          防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                    基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++ 攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 + (6450+0)*0.05 = 9529
           防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 + (5950+0)*0.05 = 9192

                      基礎值   UR++1級       UR1級
X進    攻 = 11850+(9529+0)*0.05 + (6450+0)*0.05 = 12648
          防 = 10300+(9192+0)*0.05 + (5950+0)*0.05 = 11057

X進80級 攻 = 12648 + 6550 = 19198 (少第一種 2378)
               防 = 11057 + 5900 = 16957 (少第一種 2299)
 
3.(4升一半)
                        基礎值  UR35級    5%  2隻
UR+       攻 = 7500+(6450+3175)*0.05*2 = 8462
               防 = 7300+(5950+3225)*0.05*2 = 8217

                        基礎值   UR+35級       UR35級
UR++       攻 = 8800+(8462+3400)*0.05 + (6450+3175)*0.05 = 9874
                 防 = 8500+(8217+3250)*0.05 + (5950+3225)*0.05 = 9532

                        基礎值   UR++35級       UR35級
X進         攻 = 11850+(9874+3600)*0.05 + (6450+3175)*0.05 = 13004
                防 = 10300+(9532+3400)*0.05 + (5950+3225)*0.05 = 11405

X進80級      攻 = 13004 + 6550 = 19554 (少第一種 2022)
                    防 = 11405 + 5900 = 17305 (少第一種 1951)

4.(4前不升後1滿)
                           基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+           攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
                   防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                            基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 + (6450+0)*0.05 = 9529
                    防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 + (5950+0)*0.05 = 9192

                             基礎值   UR++70級 10%    UR70級
X進               攻 = 11850+(9529+7200)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 14802
                     防 = 10300+(9192+6800)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 13139

X進80級      攻 = 14802 + 6550 = 21352 (少第一種 224)
                    防 = 13139 + 5900 = 19039 (少第一種 217)

5.(4前半後1滿)
                            基礎值  UR35級    5%  2隻
UR+            攻 = 7500+(6450+3175)*0.05*2 = 8462
                    防 = 7300+(5950+3225)*0.05*2 = 8217

                        基礎值   UR+35級       UR35級
UR++       攻 = 8800+(8462+3400)*0.05 + (6450+3175)*0.05 = 9874
                 防 = 8500+(8217+3250)*0.05 + (5950+3225)*0.05 = 9532

                        基礎值   UR++70級       UR70級
X進           攻 = 11850+(9874+7200)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 14837
                 防 = 10300+(9532+6800)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 13173

X進80級    攻 = 14837 + 6550 = 21387 (少第一種 189)
                  防 = 13173 + 5900 = 19073 (少第一種 183)

6.(4前半後2滿)
                            基礎值  UR35級    5%  2隻
UR+            攻 = 7500+(6450+3175)*0.05*2 = 8462
                    防 = 7300+(5950+3225)*0.05*2 = 8217

                            基礎值   UR+70級       UR70級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8462+6800)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 11606
                    防 = 8500+(8217+6500)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 11211

                           基礎值   UR++70級       UR70級
X進             攻 = 11850+(11606+7200)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 15010
                    防 = 10300+(11211+6800)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 13341

X進80級       攻 = 15010 + 6550 = 21560 (少第一種 16)
                    防 = 13341 + 5900 = 19241 (少第一種 15)

7.(6不升)
                           基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+            攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
                    防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                            基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 + (6450+0)*0.05 = 9529
                    防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 + (5950+0)*0.05 = 9192

                           基礎值   UR++1級   2隻(三隻合成一隻)  
X進              攻 = 11850+(9529+0)*0.05 * 2 = 12802
                    防 = 10300+(9192+0)*0.05 * 2 = 11219

X進80級       攻 = 12802 + 6550 = 19352 (少第一種 2224)
                     防 = 11219 + 5900 = 17119 (少第一種 2137)
 
8.(6前不升後1滿)
                          基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+           攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
                   防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                            基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 + (6450+0)*0.05 = 9529
                    防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 + (5950+0)*0.05 = 9192

                            基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(三隻合成一隻)    
X進              攻 = 11850+(9529+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15195
                    防 = 10300+(9192+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 13498

X進80級       攻 = 15195 + 6550 = 21745 (多第一種 169)
                     防 = 13498 + 5900 = 19398 (多第一種 142)

9.(6前半後1滿)
                            基礎值  UR35級    5%  2隻
UR+           攻 = 7500+(6450+3175)*0.05*2 = 8462
                   防 = 7300+(5950+3225)*0.05*2 = 8217

                            基礎值   UR+35級       UR35級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8462+3400)*0.05 + (6450+3175)*0.05 = 9874
                    防 = 8500+(8217+3250)*0.05 + (5950+3225)*0.05 = 9532

                            基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(三隻合成一隻)    
X進              攻 = 11850+(9874+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15264
                    防 = 10300+(9532+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 13566

X進80級      攻 = 15264 + 6550 = 21814 (多第一種 238)
                    防 = 13566 + 5900 = 19466 (多第一種 210)

10.(6全滿)
                            基礎值  UR70級    10%  2隻
UR+             攻 = 7500+(6450+6350)*0.1*2 = 10060
                    防 = 7300+(5950+6450)*0.1*2 = 9780

                             基礎值   UR+70級       UR70級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(10060+6800)*0.1 + (6450+6350)*0.1 = 11766
                    防 = 8500+( 9780+6500)*0.1 + (5950+6450)*0.1 = 11368

                             基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(三隻合成一隻)    
X進              攻 = 11850+(11766+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15643
                    防 = 10300+(11368+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 13933

X進80級      攻 = 15643 + 6550 = 22193 (多第一種 617)
                    防 = 13933 + 5900 = 19833 (多第一種 577)

11.(8不升)
                            基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+           攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
                   防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                            基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 * 2 = 9614
                    防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 * 2 = 9289

                             基礎值   UR++1級   2隻(四隻合成一隻)  
X進              攻 = 11850+(9614+0)*0.05 * 2 = 12811
                    防 = 10300+(9289+0)*0.05 * 2 = 11228

X進80級      攻 = 12811 + 6550 = 19361 (少第一種 2215)
                    防 = 11228 + 5900 = 17128 (少第一種 2128)

12.(8前不升後1滿)
                            基礎值  UR1級    5%  2隻
UR+             攻 = 7500+(6450+0)*0.05*2 = 8145
                     防 = 7300+(5950+0)*0.05*2 = 7895

                            基礎值   UR+1級       UR1級
UR++           攻 = 8800+(8145+0)*0.05 * 2 = 9614
                     防 = 8500+(7895+0)*0.05 * 2 = 9289

                            基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(四隻合成一隻)    
X進               攻 = 11850+(9614+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15212
                     防 = 10300+(9289+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 13517

X進80級       攻 = 15212 + 6550 = 21762 (多第一種 186)
                     防 = 13517 + 5900 = 19417 (多第一種 161)

13.(8前半後1滿)
                            基礎值  UR35級    5%  2隻
UR+            攻 = 7500+(6450+3175)*0.05*2 = 8462
                    防 = 7300+(5950+3225)*0.05*2 = 8217

                            基礎值   UR+35級       UR35級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(8462+3400)*0.05 * 2 = 9986
                    防 = 8500+(8217+3250)*0.05 * 2 = 9646

                            基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(三隻合成一隻)    
X進              攻 = 11850+(9986+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15287
                    防 = 10300+(9646+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 13589

X進80級      攻 = 15287 + 6550 = 21837 (多第一種 261)
                    防 = 13589 + 5900 = 19489 (多第一種 233)

14.(8全滿)
                            基礎值  UR70級    10%  2隻
UR+            攻 = 7500+(6450+6350)*0.1*2 = 10060
                    防 = 7300+(5950+6450)*0.1*2 = 9780

                            基礎值   UR+70級       UR70級
UR++          攻 = 8800+(10060+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 12172
                    防 = 8500+( 9780+6500)*0.1 * 2 = 11756

                            基礎值   UR++70級   2隻(四隻合成一隻)    
X進              攻 = 11850+(12172+7200)*0.1 * 2 = 15724
                    防 = 10300+(11756+6800)*0.1 * 2 = 14011

X進80級       攻 = 15724 + 6550 = 22274 (多第一種 698)
                     防 = 14011 + 5900 = 19911 (多第一種 655)

前面大概應該看的霧茫茫,一點都不想看對吧!!!哪就看下面的整理吧。

下面是排序:由少到多並與(4全滿)的正負差
(4不升)                (-2378, -2299)       卡不是這樣浪費的,可以給我。
(6不升)                (-2224, -2137)       卡不是這樣浪費的,可以給我。
(8不升)                (-2215, -2128)       卡不是這樣浪費的,可以給我。
(4升一半)            (-2022, -1951)       卡不是這樣浪費的,可以給我。
(4前不升後1滿)   (-224, -217)           這就真的比較懶惰了~~~
(4前半後1滿)       (-189, -183)           懶人練功法,只要練滿2次。少個180點。好像也才1%不到。
(4前半後2滿)       (-16, -15)              快速練功法,只要練滿4次。只少個10多點。划算啦!
(4全滿)                (0, 0)                     最正常的方法,但要練滿級6次
(6前不升後1滿)   (169, 142)             建議多練個2x~3x級再升級,可以多60~70點,前面升級很輕鬆
(8前不升後1滿)   (186, 161)             建議多練個2x~3x級再升級,可以多60~70點,前面升級很輕鬆
(6前半後1滿)       (238, 210)            卡多多的人,只要練滿級2次,這一個似乎很划算!
(8前半後1滿)      (261, 233)             卡神,只要練滿級2次,但多兩張卡才多20點真不划算
(6前半後2滿)      (425, 390)             卡多多的人,但要練滿級6次
(6全滿)               (617, 577)              神的弟弟還是神,要練滿級10次
(8前半後2滿)      (634, 592)             卡神,只要練滿級6次,就打贏神的弟弟
(8全滿)               (698, 655)              神人等級,要練滿級14次

大家可以自己考量划不划算,
如果我有錢買到卡,我應該會練(6前半後1滿)省素材卡又可快速強化,
沒錢應該就練(4前半後1滿)只要練兩次,才少1%。可以從其他地方補回來

之前做過實驗
針對適性放的位置好像不是3%
放對位置 +2%,
放錯位置 -4%,
放錯位置但五個同一國 +4.6%,
放對位置又五個同一國 +12%

        
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